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Post by kenbo » Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:31 pm

I’ve noticed I’ve been castling first lately. Even when you do go before me I tend to do it a move or two later. It does show your hand a bit when you do it, and possibly gives a slight edge to your opponent.

There’s quite a few game we play where I’m pretty sure which side you’re gonna go anyway. Your pawn structure makes it clear.

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Post by kenbo » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:15 am

I’m sure some of you are waiting eagerly for a score update! I did win the fifth series to make it two in a row for me, but still trailed H 3-2 overall. The sixth series is well underway and H took an early 2.5-0.5 lead, but the last seven legs have pretty much gone my way with six wins and a draw, so I’m 7-3 up and looking good to level the series.

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Post by kenbo » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:54 am



Check that out, H. I don’t think we will ever be up to that standard!

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Post by harry_rag » Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:52 pm

:thumbs Getting there slowly! {8

Quick stats blast as we stand level on series, games won and points after 8 series and 141 games.

My record as white is won 33 lost 28 and 7 drawn while yours is won 35 lost 30 and drawn 8.

Using your previously favoured E4 start you're won 30 lost 25 and drawn 8. You're 5-5 over the 10 games using other opening moves.

I've used 8 different opening moves to your 4 and the 2 that stand out as the strongest are those I've been tending to use of late, C4 and G3. I'm 12-5 (2 draws) with C4 and 7-3 (2 draws) so that's 19-8 (4) in total. I'll have a quick look at openings for black if I get chance.

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Re: Chess Chat

Post by kenbo » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:52 am

Only just seen this. I’m surprised my old opening serves me better than my new one. I think I will continue with this one for now.

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Post by harry_rag » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:11 pm

You tried a few others early on. You're 2-1 as white since using E3 as your opening and 3-0 and a draw using E6 as black recently. SO I guess I know what to expect for the time being! :)

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Post by kenbo » Tue Sep 29, 2020 3:57 pm

I hate it when you quote the grid reference, I have to get a board up and see where about it is. I much prefer ‘king pawn twice’ or similar!

Will have to look them up now!

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Post by harry_rag » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:25 pm

I tried it your way but unfortunately it messes the spreadsheet up! ;-)

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Post by kenbo » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:09 pm

You and your spreadsheets! :)

Put it in layman’s terms when you post it on here then!

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Post by harry_rag » Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:19 pm

i agree to an extent with opening king and queen pawn moves but, without looking at a board, i find it easier to think of C4 rather than "move the queen's bishop pawn 2 squares" or G3 rather than "king's knight pawn 1 square". I have to visualise where all the pieces are that way!

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Post by harry_rag » Tue Sep 29, 2020 8:02 pm

Bit harder to draw conclusions from the stats for first move as black (depends on what white opened with) but here's the standouts.

Opening with E5 (King's pawn 2 squares) seems a bad idea. Your record doing it is won 8, lost 17 and 2 draws while mine (after today) is won 4 lost 7. That's a combined score of 12-24 (2)!

Neither of us use a knight move very often but we've both got positive records when we do, you're 8-4 (2) and I'm 5-4 (2). My best response is E6 (King's pawn 1 square) which is 11-3 (2).

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Post by kenbo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:33 am

I can just about work out the grid reference for white colours. When it’s black it just frazzles my brain.

I’d imagine whenever I’ve moved my knight first, my second move would’ve been my usual first move. Therefore after two moves, my pieces would still be in the same position as usual. It has got to be a coincidence that I’ve got a good strike rate opening with it.

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Post by kenbo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:42 am

I’d be interested to know one stat (purely because of yesterday’s game). How many times a player has lost his queen first and gone on to win. I’d guess 95% of the time they are swapped so there’s probably only half a dozen games to go on. I’m gonna plump for just one game each.

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Post by kenbo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:46 am

Test

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Post by kenbo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:48 am

THats my first ever screenshot! :clap

That’s how the layout is on my app, H.

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Re: Chess Chat

Post by harry_rag » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:15 am

kenbo wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:33 am
I’d imagine whenever I’ve moved my knight first, my second move would’ve been my usual first move. Therefore after two moves, my pieces would still be in the same position as usual. It has got to be a coincidence that I’ve got a good strike rate opening with it.
It may well be random given the small sample size but I suspect that, a few times at least, you will have done it because my opening move cut off your usual one.

Screenshot the same as what I see, be interested in one that shows the timer you see for my moves.

Re queen loss comment, I'd be interested too but that will have to wait for the next time I have both time and inclination to look back over every game we've played! {8

I'll guess there will be at least 3 games won by someone who lost their queen first and at least one where the loser still had their queen on the board.

If I do look back in that detail I'll be interested in somehow noting how the scoring develops, e.g. first to, say, 5 points etc. (Let's call that a "significant" lead, e.g. at least a minor piece and 2 pawns.) I'd make me at least 1/3 to have taken a significant lead most often and 1/5 to have lost most games after taking a significant lead!

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Post by kenbo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:40 pm

I will get a snap of the timer today.

I think there’s been quite a few games where we’ve lost while still holding our queen. Probably me more so, it’s a bastard losing while still holding valuable pieces.

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Re: Chess Chat

Post by kenbo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:54 pm

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Post by harry_rag » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:51 pm

Ah suspect I've got that and never noticed it, will look next time!

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Re: Chess Chat

Post by The Fenman » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:01 am

Oive got hold of my valuable piece right now :>
Keep doing right things, right things happen. . . Simple innit

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Re: Chess Chat

Post by kenbo » Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:21 am

Harry’s last post could be a decent reply to that! :lol

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Re: Chess Chat

Post by harry_rag » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:11 pm

I bet he wouldn't keep holding it for long with someone vigorously probing his rearguard!

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Re: Chess Chat

Post by The Fenman » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:22 pm

:> :> :> A chess game in progress is… a cosmos unto itself, fully insulated from an infant’s cry, an erotic invitation, or war.”


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Re: Chess Chat

Post by harry_rag » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:24 am

Yesterday's freak footy results got me musing on probability and how very unlikely events are usually not quite as unlikely as people tend to think! Also I was thinking about how less experienced punters tend to attach too much significance to short term streaks, e.g. 6 match form. It got me musing about long winning streaks for either of us in our chess games, how often they happen and how we react to them when they do. In short, we probably over-estimate the relevance of good or bad form and understimate the extent to which it's just down to pure chance.

Before I share a few stats, I'd be interested in your guesses as to the following. Out of the 149 competitive games we've played to date:

How many times have either of us had 3 or more consecutive wins?
How is that split between the 2 of us?
What's the longest unbeaten run either of us have been on and who was it?

(Obviously this is addressed to Kenbo but anyone else is more than welcome to have a guess!) {8

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