Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Hoofhearted » Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:27 pm

Well done Alan

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Post by Hoofhearted » Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm

I don’t like opposing Freebooter however ...

Hello Girl 635 Bath
trainer Nigel Tinkler from Malton has only had two runners at Bath in the last 5 years with one winning.
He’s got 2 tonight however this one has caught my eye as he’s booked Tom Marquand to ride.
He’s got his apprentice on his other runner in the 5.00 ( Marquand has a ride in the race)
In the 635 his apprentice is on a 40/1 shot for another trainer which you can’t give much hope to - only beat 10 horses in its last 7 races! - but she has ridden Hello Girl before.

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by pottsy » Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:07 pm

Hoofhearted wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 3:28 pm
I don’t like opposing Freebooter however ...

Hello Girl 635 Bath
trainer Nigel Tinkler from Malton has only had two runners at Bath in the last 5 years with one winning.
He’s got 2 tonight however this one has caught my eye as he’s booked Tom Marquand to ride.
He’s got his apprentice on his other runner in the 5.00 ( Marquand has a ride in the race)
In the 635 his apprentice is on a 40/1 shot for another trainer which you can’t give much hope to - only beat 10 horses in its last 7 races! - but she has ridden Hello Girl before.
Just read your post Hoof before the 5.00
TYVM! 8D :cheers

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Hoofhearted » Fri Jul 10, 2020 5:07 pm

Unfortunately I thought the one in the 635? was the one they were going with - it blew smart arses like me off the scent *,

Fingers crossed

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by freebooter » Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:07 pm

Sods law Hoof {8

Three at Newcastle

Global Humour - 6.30 10/1
Staxton 7.00 11/2
Only Spoofing 7.30 6/1

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Col » Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:54 am

Morning all :)

Three from the tracker

Final Choice - (Newcastle, 20:30)
freebooter 04/03/2020
Unreliable sort. Eleventh of 12 in handicap hurdle at Southwell (20.4f, good, 50/1) 10 days ago. Visor back on. Fair on the Flat, needing stronger gallop at Wolverhampton on comeback in June.

High Commissioner - (Salisbury, 19:15)
Placewinner 18/04/2019
Still a maiden but has some fairly useful form. Made creditable return to action when fourth on AW at Kempton (11f) 21 days ago. Often front runs. First run beyond 1½m.

Sharp Reply - (Salisbury, 20:45)
Placewinner 25/05/2018
First run since leaving Charles Pogson when second of 8 in handicap (150/1) at Haydock (10.4f, firm) 16 days ago. Not taken lightly if he can back that up.

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by freebooter » Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:09 am

Col wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:54 am
Morning all :)

from the tracker

Final Choice - (Newcastle, 20:30)
freebooter 04/03/2020
Unreliable sort. Eleventh of 12 in handicap hurdle at Southwell (20.4f, good, 50/1) 10 days ago. Visor back on. Fair on the Flat, needing stronger gallop at Wolverhampton on comeback in June.

Really put of by the inexperienced claimer up & Nearly There around 4/1 would be my selection here

Newcastle 7.30

Only Spoofing catches the eye now in class 4 having won its last two races in this grade, one rag I liked but its just been nibbled is Another Angel
rarely runs a bad race here & there is still some 20's around, last run here was a 3rd place off 80 its off 75 today

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by PlaceWinner » Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:36 am

Col wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:54 am
Morning all :)

Three from the tracker


High Commissioner - (Salisbury, 19:15)
Placewinner 18/04/2019
Still a maiden but has some fairly useful form. Made creditable return to action when fourth on AW at Kempton (11f) 21 days ago. Often front runs. First run beyond 1½m.

Sharp Reply - (Salisbury, 20:45)
Placewinner 25/05/2018
First run since leaving Charles Pogson when second of 8 in handicap (150/1) at Haydock (10.4f, firm) 16 days ago. Not taken lightly if he can back that up.
Like the apprentice who rides High..Win bet at BOG 7-2

Sharp has a small each way chance at BOG 18-1
"This will not be beaten"

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by peanut » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:39 am

New 1.50- Finest Sound @ 9/4
New 3.35- Golden Horde @ 5/2
:)

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by alancraik » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:44 am

todays selections



NEWMARKET 12:10 Country 4/1 win 3 Places

NEWMARKET 15:35 Hello Youmzain 4/1 win 3 Places

NEWMARKET 16:10 Arigato 9/1 e/w 5 Places
plus e/w trixie

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Timmo » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:17 am

Platitube 1-30 Ascot 11/1

Namos 3-35 Newmarket 28/1

Justanotherbottle 3-50 Ascot 18/1

Harrogate 4-35 Salisbury 18/1

EW 15 4 places

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Secretariat » Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:43 pm

Nice start Alan :clap !8D :clap
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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Dozer » Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:17 pm

Just got this 5 mins ago Hudson River newmkt 15:00

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by nick » Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:36 pm

Col » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:51 pm

Proposed rules for the racing thread

Racing Forum Rules

I don't like to put too many rules in place, but we need a few guidelines.

Anyone is entitled to start and run their own thread, all I ask is that on each
personal thread, a total profit and loss is kept.
I would also ask that everyone who is posting in the racing threads to contribute regularly
to the Daily threads

The Daily thread is for selections with a bit of reasoning
we don't need chapter and verse, just a few words of reason.

Anyone who continually posts up selections without reasoning, will be asked to move to a personal thread.

Any problems with this.


:>

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by alancraik » Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:26 pm

alancraik wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:44 am
todays selections



NEWMARKET 12:10 Country 4/1 win 3 Places 1 st 8D

NEWMARKET 15:35 Hello Youmzain 4/1 win 3 Places up

NEWMARKET 16:10 Arigato 9/1 e/w 5 Places 4th :)
plus e/w trixie
a small profit today

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by alancraik » Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:01 pm

nick wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:36 pm
Col » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:51 pm

Proposed rules for the racing thread

Racing Forum Rules

I don't like to put too many rules in place, but we need a few guidelines.

Anyone is entitled to start and run their own thread, all I ask is that on each
personal thread, a total profit and loss is kept.
I would also ask that everyone who is posting in the racing threads to contribute regularly
to the Daily threads

The Daily thread is for selections with a bit of reasoning
we don't need chapter and verse, just a few words of reason.

Anyone who continually posts up selections without reasoning, will be asked to move to a personal thread.

Any problems with this.


:>
The way I pick my horses there is no reasoning, they are picked purely by categories. (score over 5 out 10 I have a punt). I do not have a clue if they will win or lose.

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Col » Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:38 pm

nick wrote:
Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:36 pm
Col » Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:51 pm

Proposed rules for the racing thread

Racing Forum Rules

I don't like to put too many rules in place, but we need a few guidelines.

Anyone is entitled to start and run their own thread, all I ask is that on each
personal thread, a total profit and loss is kept.
I would also ask that everyone who is posting in the racing threads to contribute regularly
to the Daily threads

The Daily thread is for selections with a bit of reasoning
we don't need chapter and verse, just a few words of reason.

Anyone who continually posts up selections without reasoning, will be asked to move to a personal thread.

Any problems with this.


:>
Quite right Nick
That is the rules that we set out for the racing forum. We seem to have let it slip somewhat.
As from monday that will be the first post in the thread.

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by The Fenman » Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:31 pm

'# '# Got to admit i follow placey and boots purely because i know why they like said beast (s)

Just a name of a horse means nowt to me. :thumbs
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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by freebooter » Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:49 pm

Tracker horse won at 33's *,

Two in five minutes tomorrow.

Sir Gnet - 4.05 Lin 16/1

No great shakes first two runs back but does well here over C & D, third last time here off 55 & won early last year off 64 so back here for the first time since Nov off 50 makes it interesting the 16's is standout with 365

Miss Cunning
- 4.00 Dundalk 16/1

Not in any rush as may well go bigger tomorrow, not disgraced on comeback run but more interesting its previous run Here at Dundalk, drawn two & jockey took it wide very early doors, tried to keep it covered on outside in the home straight was last a furlong out finished 8th of 14, this is easier, drawn wide this time round apprentice replaced & hopefully might produce something better.

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Col » Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:10 pm

Tracker horse won at 33's *,
Bloody 'ell

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Secretariat » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:00 am

Only my personal view
I like how group works as it is... You get some great write ups from obviously people that put great effort into coming to a conclusion for their selection... You then also get some great winners along the way from a simple message that states time meeting and horse. Then it's down to the ingividual to follow or not.

1 slight confusion is that obviously the ones that study the form will have selections most days but for the ones that'll post some great winners will only post when they've been given something or like me heard something on podcast where a certain tipster is very bullish. Then will this poster still be able to post as one of the rules states "I would also ask that everyone who is posting in the racing threads to contribute regularly
to the Daily threads"

I just hope that this puts NOBODY off from posting on this great site and it continues to grow.
As I say just my point of view which we were all used to have.

I will be posting later a small fancy from trainer for Monday as soon as prices are formed... His exact words are: "would have good chance Windsor Monday"

Good luck all :cheers
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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Col » Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:23 am

Morning all :)

Nothing from the tracker today.

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Sigge » Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:59 am

Derbyday at Jagersro in Sweden today and Bet365 have put out odds. A couple of real treats, so hurry up before they cut the odds. E/W double below.

Two horses with great chance of winning are massively overpriced. Race 6 number 1 Suspicious Mind will surely go Off favourite and 7-2 is really Good, the horse is in topform and has a Great jockey.

An even better bet might be in race 8. Number 6 Queen Rouge is also 7-2 right now and will be shorter come racing. This filly is fantastic, has a Good draw and the jockey knows her Well.

If You want to do an each way trixie, number 5 Couples in race 10 is my pick at 8-1. Better Off with the weights today and was caught 5-wide last time out when finishing second.

Good luck if You choose to follow at your own risk 😊

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Col » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:32 am

Cheers sigge :thumbs

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Col » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:45 am

Just to make it clear
Nobody wants to stop people posting any thing that may be of value to the forum.
So if you have heard anything, post up what you heard that's fine.

If you are posting up a fancy, give a little reason why you fancy it.

Just don't post a list of horses names and times that mean nothing to anyone

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by alancraik » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:52 am

todays selections


BANGOR-ON-DEE 14:45 Montys Award 7/2 win

BANGOR-ON-DEE 15:15 Mercian Prince 11/4 win

BANGOR-ON-DEE 15:45 Dear Sire 16/1 3 Places

BANGOR-ON-DEE 16:15 Regulation 4/1 win

also having a little flutter on African Glory 90/1 ( 15:15 Bangor) Todhunter is trainer I follow, he has never had runners at Bangor.

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by harry_rag » Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:56 am

My view as an occasional peruser of the racing thread and even more occasional nag punter, I tend to agree with Sec’s view. I’d say “if it ain’t broke...” but it’s obviously broke for Nick hence the dilemma! I don’t see much value in shunting people into personal threads that are less likely to be read, it almost feel like you might as well tell them not to bother posting.

Looking back over this week, Peanut and Alan would appear to be the most prolific posters of selections with no reasoning. Alan has stated the following.

[/quote]The way I pick my horses there is no reasoning, they are picked purely by categories. (score over 5 out 10 I have a punt). I do not have a clue if they will win or lose.
[/quote]

I’d say the categories/scores are the reasoning (and that no one knows whether their selections will win or lose, however extensive the reasoning they give)! Having explained his criteria once, I’m not sure how much value there is in him stating the same thing every time. Maybe he could but the score for each horse though (assuming a 9/10 is better than a 5)?

As with football, peanut posts plenty of selections but largely without reasoning. In terms of the footy, I might have a look at ref stats etc. where he’s put up a penalty or cards bet to see if I fancy it.

I can see both sides of this, I get more benefit from a well reasoned post from Nick than a bare selection from anyone but I still might take a closer look when prompted by the latter. Sometimes I post my reasoning with detail but other times it’s more of a one liner, either because of time constraints or because it’s essentially a system pick.

I think you need to be clearer about what constitutes an acceptable level of reasoning. Would this be appropriate guidance or is it too lax (possibly for Nick’s liking, whose view should carry more weight than mine in terms of the gee gees).

Please give some reasoning for your selection, the more detail the better though one or two lines will suffice. Just something to help others understand why you’ve backed it and decide whether they wish to do the same.

As an absolute minimum, you can indicate that these are your system picks if that’s the case, or you’ve seen it tipped elsewhere and like the look of it, the name amuses you, whatever! Where you’ve “been given” or “had a word” for the selection, tell us that at least, preferably with some idea of how much confidence you place in it.

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by alancraik » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:08 am

Well said Harry,

I will only post when I back a horse that does not fall into my system. Todays example

also having a little flutter on African Glory 90/1 ( 15:15 Bangor) Todhunter is trainer I follow, he has never had runners at Bangor.

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by harry_rag » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:25 am

Col wrote:
Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:45 am
Just to make it clear
Nobody wants to stop people posting any thing that may be of value to the forum.
So if you have heard anything, post up what you heard that's fine.

If you are posting up a fancy, give a little reason why you fancy it.

Just don't post a list of horses names and times that mean nothing to anyone
*, Wish I’d seen that post before I embarked on that ramble! :)

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Col » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:35 am

:)


So If we take alans post as an example.
I'd have made that two posts
1st post
todays system selections


BANGOR-ON-DEE 14:45 Montys Award 7/2 win

BANGOR-ON-DEE 15:15 Mercian Prince 11/4 win

BANGOR-ON-DEE 15:45 Dear Sire 16/1 3 Places

BANGOR-ON-DEE 16:15 Regulation 4/1 win
Thus making it clear it's a system selection.
2nd post
I'm having a little flutter on African Glory 90/1 ( 15:15 Bangor) Todhunter is trainer I follow, he has never had runners at Bangor.
That's a perfectly acceptable bit of reasoning

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by The Fenman » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:37 am

3.35 lingers

WALK IT TALK IT

Running over the right trip for the first time, in an awful race, yard are very hopeful and have backed it.

5/2 in places :thumbs
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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by Col » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:42 am

Cheers mate :thumbs

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by nick » Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:43 am

Each to their own.

For me most of the posts are a complete and meaningless waste of time. They do nothing to enhance the quality and attractiveness of the forum - quite the opposite.

I don't see many new or knowledgeable members being attracted, if that is what is wanted.

But that's just me, and it's all been said before. It's up to Col of course. I don't know why a "personal campaign" thread cannot be used, as Col has requested in the past. Then those that want to follow can do so easily.

A great post from Sigge today - many thanks :thumbs . I'll definitely be checking those out.

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Re: Daily Racing Thread 06th - 12th July

Post by toptwo » Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:25 pm

Boom! Tommy Tittlemouse 33s :cheers Nobby :thumbs

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