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Post by salmon spray » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:22 pm

Right I've had a look at The Belmont. Tbh this year's crop of 3-y-os in the US looks very moderate and neither the Preakness nor the Belmont have been improved by the non-appearance of both the winner and the the first past the post in the Kentucky Derby ( That controversial disqualification is now in the law courts I believe )
The two clear favs tomorrow night are Tacitus and War of Will. Tacitus finished 4th past the post in the Durby and hasn't run since. War of Will finished behind Tacitus at Kentucky,where he appeared to have stamina limitations,but has since won the slightly shorter Preakness,where he probably got the run of the Race. The Preakness 2nd,Everfast,is quite likely to reverse the placings imo as he was closing at the end and looks likelier to stay. His earlier form was nothing to write home about though. I'm going to take a chance with the Japanese-trained (in theory as he must be with an American barn as he seems to have been over there for more than a month ). He finished between Tacitus and War of Will at Kentucky and was finishing best of the whole field after an awkward start from a wide draw. He has a competent American-based jockey on board and,whilst hardly a confident selection,looks like the best value.
There's an interesting race at Belmont tonight. Interesting as it is over 2m and you don't get many of those in the States. It is on turf so not surprisingly there are a couple of British Isles contenders. Both are a bit odd though. Hugo Palmer sends Mootasadir who showed very good form over shorter on the a/w over the winter but has never shown anything like the same form on turf,including in the Yorkshire Cup lto. I thought the answer might be Raa Atoll, who had some decent but hardly earth-shattering form for John Gosden over shorter,but then seemed to show much improved form for its new Irish trainer when upped to 2m he won a German Grp 2. The problem is his new trainer,a Mr Comer,has had 123 runners in the British Isles in the last 5 years and not one has won ! I'm inclined to take a chance on the American horse Arklow staying this far.

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Post by salmon spray » Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:25 pm

Whoops. I ought to read my posts more carefully as I have cleverly not given the name of my tip. 8(:
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Yeah, that always helps. :lol :thumbs

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:lol
I've still not got it right ffs.
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Blokes fick i m o. :)
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Il be fine then when i get old '# '#
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Post by salmon spray » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:39 am

I daren't answer the last post :).
Arklow finished a close 2nd with the two British Isles horses well beaten so I got it right up to a point. Unfortunately I somehow managed to miss the French-trained winner,Amade,whose last 3 races were in Britain where he showed both decent form and stamina. BUT he's another one who has done nearly all his racing on the a/w ! I can't think of any reason why European polytrack/tapeta specialists should suddenly blossom,or at least be expected to blossom,on US turf.If they were going to go anywhere you would expect it to be Woodbine in Canada which I think is the only major course in N America to still have a synthetic surface ( There are one or two lesser US tracks that still have polytrack or tapeta but Keeneland,Santa Anita and Del Mar have all switched back to dirt ).
Seems to be dry and warm in NY today so no sloppy course like there was for The Durby.

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Post by Heresiarch » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:35 pm

Cracking card up and down at Belmont today so thought I'd chip in. If you want to watch the local coverage you can stream it for free at https://www.nyra.com/belmont/racing/live - whoever built this didn't code it properly, so while you need to log in to watch the left hand screen, you can just select multi camera and watch it on the right hand screen with no issues.

A few thoughts on the races themselves...
- I do like Om e/w in the Jaipur - his really good form has dropped off the bottom of the DRF and he might find the trip a bit short but at 20/1 I've had a play - he was second in the BC sprint a couple of years ago and he has moved to a top trainer.
- The Acorn looks a great betting race. The favourite is a once raced maiden, the second favourite is a need the lead all or nothing horse, so it should set up for a closer at a price. Queen Of Beas is the most likely one and the complete outsider Jeltrin fits as well, so I have played them both e/w.
- Met Mile is as good a dirt race as you'll see all year. I like McKinzie, the favourite. He's got the top speed figure, he doesn't need the lead in a race that looks like it's full of pace, and Bob Baffert has an amazing record in New York. I can't see Mitole or Promises Fulfilled getting the trip in this classy field, Thunder Snow doesn't strike me as a miler, Firenze Fire is the most overrated horse in training. The only other that really appealed was Coal Front who hit the line really hard in Dubai but given the price I couldn't justify it.
- I love Channel Maker in the Manhattan. He's a genuine turf router, seems to be peaking as a 5 year old, and the price is fair against Bricks and Mortar. I've also included Catcho En Die at 40/1 who is a total rag but is competitive on speed figures so I'll take a punt.
- Sir Winston and Master Fencer for me in the Belmont. Sir Winston was second in the local trial and is competitive on figures, and should be fresh. I think it's interesting that he finished 4 lengths ahead of Intrepid Heart in the Peter Pan but is the same price - so potentially some value. Master Fencer finished fast in the KY Derby and I'd be worried that he needs a pace meltdown, but I like that final quarter last time.

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Post by salmon spray » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:33 am

Wd to Heresiarch as Sir Winston won the big one at a generous price. Very well ridden by Joel Rosario , who can on occasion look like the Yank answer to Jamie Spencer , but last night found a great gap on the inside and then rode very aggressively to get the horse home. After the Durby there was some speculation about a possible disqualification,but if Sir Winston interfered with anything it was War of Will,his stablemate,who finished 9th,so tbh an objection was never likely. Tacitus who was 2nd had a very wide trip and I wasn't enthusiastic about the ride on my pick Master Fencer who finished with a rattle again,after exaggerated waiting tactics were employed off what appeared to be a moderate pace. But hey-ho I'm not joining the aftertiming jockey bashers who pollute another forum.
Midnight Bisou and Guanaro (beating the Kentucky Oaks winner by 6 lengths in only her 2nd race) were the impressive winners for me and must be on the short-list for whatever they go for in the Breeders Cup.

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Post by Col » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:12 am

Nice one Heresiarch :clap :clap

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Post by salmon spray » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:35 am

Yes I think I'm going to give up tipping and just invite guests.
The filly I mentioned should of course be Guanara. The giveaway being that fillies are usually female {:(

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Post by salmon spray » Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:01 am

I'm still alive.
The New York racing circuit switches for the summer to Saratoga. The other two courses of significance are actually in the city,Belmont and Aqueduct but traditionally rich New Yorkers got out of the heat of the city for a month or two and went,mainly,to Long Island,home of the Hamptons and The Great Gatsby. I must admit I have always assumed Saratoga was there but somebody corrected me on the fair the other week. It is in fact in upstate NY,on the mainland quite a way to the north of the City. It does always seem to have a similar feel to Long Island about it though. it's actually Saratoga Springs which sounds as though it was a posh spa originally. Anybody whose interested can watch it on Sky/ATR if you have it or on Betfair for free. You have to have an account but you don't need to put a bet on to watch the US stuff.

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Post by Heresiarch » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:58 am

I'm in Saratoga this week for my summer holiday (tough life!) - it's the Travers Stakes on Saturday so I've made a trip out of it. It chucked it down today, one of the biggest storms I've ever seen, which included a bookmaker style umbrella taking out someone in the grand stand as it flew at them on the wind. The card was meant to open with a novice hurdle that had Chief Justice in the field but they cancelled it as the turf was too soft - I'm not convinced NYRA really understand national hunt racing!

A few interesting runners on tomorrow's card. Nothing priced up yet so hard to know exactly where you stand but:
- Lucky Bet has interesting form in the 2nd (6.22). The track was strongly speed favouring last week and still seemed kind to being on the pace today, but runners were coming away from the rail - this guy is the only speed in the race and he's drawn widest so he should get a good set-up. He's 5/1 on the US morning line but I'd expect a bit more value from a UK bookmaker than that - the Chad Brown runner should take the money.
- English Soul has the top last time out speed figure in the 3rd (6.54) and has run well with an ease in the ground, which most of the other have not. I think the challenge to her will come from the 6 Beau Belle but I'll be waiting for the prices to see how to tackle it, ideally I'd like to bet both of them.
- Derby Memories is probably bet of the day in the 4th (7.26). I can't imagine there will be much of a price but he's the top speed figure and only speed in the race. If he's better than even money with a UK bookmaker I'd take it, you will definitely beat the SP.
- Hotsy Totsy goes in the Riskaverse at 10.06 and I make her European form good enough to win this. I rate Magnetic Charm and she's bang there with her, and I would have her a good few points clear on speed figures based upon her Ascot and Sailsbury runs. There is the usual assortment of Chad Brown runners to beat but he can't win every race. I'd play this one into the US pools as I'd expect to get more value there.

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Post by Heresiarch » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:51 am

Some thoughts ahead of Travers day - I think the rail has been a bit dead, I don't have my copy of Betting Thoroughbreds to hand to consult but I wonder if it is a result of all the rain on Wednesday? Horses were able to win both on the pace and off the pace Thursday / Friday so it's not just a question of finding a front runner...

For the Travers itself - there isn't a huge amount of pace on here, apparently the plan is to send Tax from post 12 so he'll have to be quick to clear the field. I have my doubts about the front 2 in the market - Tacitus hasn't ever really ran that fast, and always seems to be finding ways to get into trouble. If he misses the break again in this field it's game over too, I doubt he'll be able to close into the pace that we could get. Code Of Honor is a perfectly good horse but his best performances have been when the race sets up for him, which it may not here. At the prices I like Tax and Mucho Gusto - you can get 8/1 about both of them which seems perfectly fair. I think they might just parade round the track 1-2 in some order so I'll add a small reverse forecast in too. Looking At Bikinis is interesting too but the price isn't quite there.

On the undercard:
6.48 - I love Promises Fulfilled in general and I like him here, that said I'd be worried he gets stuck on the rail. He should have the pace to get a nice lead here. The concern I'd have is that Mitole was rated last time and got beat, so are they going to gun him to the front and hook up in some sort of suicidal pace showdown? I've added Bon Raison e/w in case that happens, I think he's more progressive than the other closers and he's 20/1.
7.23 - I think Ron Wood's analysis in the Racing Post is spot on here, there is a lot of pace lined up and it's quite possible we will get a collapse. Pacific Gale is 40/1 so is worth an each way poke as she looks the best hold up horse. The other closer is Dawn The Destroyer, but Pacific Gale beat her 2 races ago. Even if you don't get a total pace collapse she could still run on into a place, so whilst it's a shame there aren't 8 runners I think it's fair value.
7.59 - This is an interesting race on a number of levels. Shancelot ran a gigantic speed figure last time (121) - for context only 7 horses have run over 120 since 2006 and it's higher than American Pharoah / Arrogate / Gun Runner / California Chrome ever achieved. He is going to be a seriously short price, I'd guess 1/5 or so on the boards, but it's not hard to imagine a scenario where he gets beat. He's drawn 1, there is other speed in 2, the rail might be dead - so he could get pinned inside, sit on the dead rail the entire time, and have something circle the field to beat him. You can't go mad trying to beat him but Mind Control and Hog Creek Hustle are both sensible options and I've had a each way bet on both given the prices. They both have some decent bits of form and if the favourite gets compromised by the race it will set up for both of them - and if it doesn't nothing will get close anyway.
8.35 - I like both Indian Blessing and Scottish Jig here. Indian Blessing in particular has form that is as good as anything the US horses have achieved, both in Europe and in the US, and should be a good price in the pools. Scottish Jig is more of a value play but she looks the lone speed so at a price I'll include her.

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Post by nick » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:33 am

Thanks for posting, Hereisarch. Hope you're having an enjoyable and profitable stint in Saratoga :thumbs .

I've put the horses you have mentioned in those 5 races today in combination forecast doubles. Good luck :cheers .

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Post by salmon spray » Mon Sep 30, 2019 8:51 am

I have been neglecting this so am glad there has been the odd contribution from others,something which I very much welcome.
A couple of things. I think I said earlier in the thread that a I thought a jockey called Carol Cedeno was probably male ( after all John Wayne was called Marion ). In fact I found an article about HER from a few years ago where SHE was 25 and had already had a couple of kids. Even in this gender fluid age I am prepared to accept that the chances are Carol is a girlie. :clap
Secondly the Breeders Cup takes place on Nov 1 and ( mainly ) Nov 2 and is back at Santa Anita in California. I shall give you 4 or 5 winners nearer the time '#

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Post by Heresiarch » Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:38 pm

Well worth watching the G1 Breeders Futurity from Keeneland last night - Maxfield made an Arazi like move round the home turn, was super impressive off what seemed to be a slow enough pace.



I've taken some of the 13/2 on 365 for the Juvenile. Not usually the sort of antepost bet I'd make but he was so impressive. Be interesting to see what sort of speed figure he gets but I reckon they'll project it into the 90s which will be good enough to be a contender here. For my money he was more impressive than Tiz The Law who won the Champagne at Belmont closing into a hot pace and Eight Rings who got away with slow fractions in the Frontrunner.

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Post by salmon spray » Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:48 am

Good morning. The Breeders Cup is with us again from Santa Anita where it is pleasantly warm,but not hot ( I'm not there but there are weather forecasts available.)
I'm not great at the moment so will only be mentioning a few races,so hopefully Heresiarch is around along perhaps with one or two others.
Tonight we get the two year old races out of the way. The Grade 1s as ever are over 8 or 8.5f. One each on turf and dirt for colts and fillies. Quite a strong European representation on the turf,including the Coventry winner Arizona,but tbh I think these are for watching rather than serious backing.
There is also a turf race also for 2-y-os over 5f. Rather surprisingly this only gets Grade 2 status despite being worth £400k+ to the winner. A strong British Isles contingent is headed by A'Ali but my one fancy for tonight is Wesley Ward's filly Kimari,who was just pipped at Ascot but is unbeaten in the States. She made her name as a front-runner but last time out with Mike Smith on board she came from rather a long way behind but still won quite impressively. John Velasquez,her normal jockey,is back on tonight so I rather expect her to go back to front-running. She should take some catching.
Incidentally Heresiarch's fancy Maxfield was originally declared for the colt's dirt race but was withdrawn on Wed unfortunately.
All being well I will be back this time tomorrow with thoughts on at least the two biggest races.

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Post by Heresiarch » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:38 am

Hope you feel better soon Spray =\

Lying awake at 4.30am here after leaving home at 5pm Wednesday for what became a 30 hour trip to LA...surprisingly cold last night but forecast for today is 28c. I don't think there's been a drop of rain in LA for quite some time, hence all the wildfires.

Apparently the track is playing slow but fair - it's not a standard SA surface where you need to be at the front. It's a bit of a cliche too but I do hope they all come back safely too given the various welfare challenges SA has had this year.

Juvenile Turf Sprint - I think a Wesley Ward horse will win this but it's silly open. No conviction but I've got Dr Simpson e/w
Juvenile Turf - Strongly prefer Arizona - I think the US horses are a pretty rotten bunch. 5/2 is fair and the draw isn't ideal but I think he can just out class them
Juvenile Fillies - Interesting race this. I prefer Wicked whisper who I though did well to win the Frizette from the front last time. Donna Veloce is a one raced maiden winner with a huge speed figure and bullet works - having watched the race it was seriously impressive but there's no value in the price.
Juvenile Fillies Turf - I like Albinga here which is probably the obvious one, but on speed figures I'd give Shadn a chance too - OK draw and I'm hoping for a price on the US tote on it.
Juvenile - Gutted Maxfield isn't running. I've played Shoplifted e/w. He had though trips last 2 times, has worked well, and can improve - I'd rather play the 33/1 e/w than try and split the 7/4 shots.

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Post by Col » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:58 am

Thank you Gents :thumbs

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Post by salmon spray » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:12 am

Good morning.
Feeling gutted as the form for the last race fell apart entirely last night and I managed to lay the winner at a ridiculous price. Please give generously.
Looking for winners tonight and have picked out the following
7.33 Turf sprint. Shekky Shebaz is much improved since switched to turf and could go well at quite a nice price
8.54 Fillies + Mares Turf We have last year's 1000Gns winner ( not a distinguished one ) but the Yanks should keep this at home with Mysistercharlie,last year's winner of this and likely to be a spray odds-on special.
9.36 Dirt Sprint. Mitole is likely to be fav but is not as speedy as Imperial Hint,who I will go for.
10.20 Turf Mile. O'Brien has Circus Maximus but I'd be a bit surprised if he is quite good enough. Uni has been supplemented after breaking the Keeneland course record last time and will do for me.
11.00 Distaff Dirt. Hard to see beyond Midnight Bisou who should really be in the big one. Tough,consistent and very hard to beat. Another spray odds-on cert. Hmmmm.
11.40 Breeders Cup Turf. This is the 12f race which Europe usually wins. Aiden has picked it up 4 times in the last 8 years and sends over the Epsom Derby winner Anthony van Dyck. But Derby winners aren't what they were and although I wouldn't rule it out I think Old Persian is a more likely European winner. I think Trumpland should keep this one at home as well though with Bricks and Mortar
0.44 ( Sorry Grimmy. Bit late for me too these days but I'll hang on in ). Not the best of renewals tbh and might be worth taking a chance with the mare Elate,who isn't quite as good as Midnight Bisou,but is a similar,tough,consistent type.
I'm a bit disappointed that there doesn't seem to be anything over the 6.5f turf chute,which most unusually for the US is obviously downhill and has a pronounced RIGHT-hand kink. Usually very spectacular but not to be seen tonight apparently.

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Post by salmon spray » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:31 am

Well I managed 2 out of 6 ( Imperial Hint was a n/r ). I was rather let down by the ladies,not an unknown feeling. The two great veterans Mike Smith and John Velasquez both had meetings they would rather forget I imagine. Joel Rosario was more Scobie Breasley than Jamie Spencer on Uni ( he can be either ) but Irad Ortiz,now without much argument the leading American jockey, won the two big ones,including on Vino Rosso,arguably the meeting's most impressive winner. O'Brien Jnr and Wayne Lordan managed the only European winner with Iridessa. I thought Lordan was seen to good advantage (he gets plenty of rides in the States for Aiden as by today's standards he is a lightweight and their weights haven't ballooned as much as they have over here. )
Anybody who was watching will probably have noticed what looked like,and was, a fatal injury in The Classic and of course that is the talking point in The Guardian and no doubt elsewhere. Santa Anita for some reason DOES have a poorer record on fatalities than most US courses and I imagine will somehow have to improve if they are to get the BC in future years ( it is elsewhere in the next two ).
Incidentally part of the chute was used in the longer turf races but not with the same spectacular effect as when they use all of it for sprints.

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Post by Heresiarch » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:39 pm

I did find it odd that they were willing to run the turf over 75% of the downhill course, including the bit that goes over the dirt, but not the whole thing. Was interesting on Friday that the locals I was standing beside were cheering every time a race got over the dirt bit on the turf course without a breakdown - if that's the bit that matters why risk it at all?

The horse to take out of the whole meet for next year was Stubbins in the turf sprint. Met all sorts of trouble and finished like a wild horse. Will win it next year at Keeneland. Shancealot should go well in Dubai in March if he goes.

Anyway, if anyone here ever ends up at Santa Anita I can strongly recommend the Drinkers Hall of Fame, about 15 mins walk from the track. A first post of 10am local and almost undrinkably strong vodkas for $4 at the bar after led to bed by 8.30.

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Post by Heresiarch » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:03 pm

Really good card at Gulfstream today - a few selections below...

World Of Trouble Turf Sprint, 5.28 - Shekky Shebaz is the bet of the day on this card. Dominates the field on figures, ran pretty well in the BC Turf Sprint last time, likes the 5f distance, and trained by Jason Servis so there's lots to like. Race isn't priced yet but I'll take anything over even money - he's 8/5 in the US morning line.

La Prevoyante Sakes, 8.03 - I really like Simply Beautiful here. She's not shipped on her merits as I think she's running so that Ryan Moore can get a look at the track before the G1 but she lays over this field on speed figures and finished like a train at Lingfield last time. Got a decent enough draw too and the Gulfstream turf course generally finished closers so I think she can run them down late. 5/1 so I'll take my chances. Mean Mary an interesting runner too - she seems to be the only speed in the race, competitive on last time out figure. She's 12/1 so it is a bit of a flyer. I can see why the Chad Brown filly is favourite but she is nothing special on her European form..12 -

Inside Information Stakes, 8.36 - This looks like being run at a torrid pace so find a closer. My 2 against the field are Wildwood's Beauty and Pink Sands, both at 10/1. I love Spiced Perfection but couldn't touch her at 13/8, they scratched her from a race at Santa Anita a couple of weeks ago to wait for this and it's a much harder spot.

WL McKnight Stakes, 9.12 - Red Knight looks a good thing here. Top figure, ran well against Sadler's Joy last time, stays the trip properly, and has 2 bullet works on the tab this year. Might get a bad trip from stall 1 but it's a 3 turn race so you have to balance that out against guaranteed ground saving. 5/2 is fair.

Pegasus Turf, 9.49 - $1m in the pool here which is probably why every decent turf horse in South Florida is in it. At least half the field would be better suited in the previous race over 12f, but they're chasing the money. Lasix banned too so you need something that doesn't bleed. I like Magic Wand, she's shown she likes running in America and either of her 2nd to Bricks and Mortar would be good enough here. Outside stall a concern. Without Parole is the favourite and he seemed to run much better for Chad Brown last time but he's no sort of price and you have to wonder if the Lasix helped him more than a change of scenery. Sacred Life is the other one for me at 10/1 or so. Doesn't need Lasix, had a tough trip last time and ran a lot better than it looks, and is quite a small horse so suited by US racing round the tight turns.

Pegasus World Cup - Not as exciting as it was seeing the first 2 favourites scratched but still a decent race. Should be a good pace on here but not a silly one, so you'd hope the track plays fair. I've taken Higher Power and Diamond Oops against the field. Higher Power won the Pacific Classic at Del Mar last time and that's arguably the best single bit of form on show. Ran OK in the Breeders Cup Classic last time out. Been working well for this too. The only knock against Diamond Oops is the trip. He's got the best last time out speed figure, goes well at Gulfstream, been working well...just probably prefers 2 furlongs less. He's 8/1 though so happy to chance it.

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Post by salmon spray » Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:23 pm

I've been meaning to revive this for some time,but had rather got stuck on the Bf forum. That is looking increasingly as though it's kaput so I will be here if it is. Even if the pit ,as I gather it is known on here,rises like Lazarus,I will certainly give you a loser in The Durby,which is usually the same Sat as our 2000 Gns,end of April/beginning of May.

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Post by salmon spray » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:23 am

Just a couple of snippets about my favourite topic : ancient jockeys
Perry Wayne Ouzts whom I mentioned earlier on this thread seems to have retired just after his 65th birthday in July last year. He went out with a winner and a second at Turfway Park,and finished with over 7000 winners making him 8th on the all-time list in N America
The 59 year old Scott Stevens won his 5000th winner at Turf Paradise last night. Scott is the OLDER brother of the much more famous Gary,of Sea Biscuit the movie fame and the winner of a host of big races including some in Europe. Gary finally retired (for about the 4th time) in 2018 but Scott carries on,albeit at a much lower level. He's about 130 winners behind Gary so must be tempted to carry on for a bit.

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Post by salmon spray » Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:44 pm

The Kentucky Durby has been postponed to a possibly optimistic Sept 5th. The idea is at the moment that the Preakness and Belmont will follow at roughly the normal intervals. Problem with the Preakness is that Pimlico only race in May so it might go to Laurel Park.
US racing is cancelled in some states and by some tracks. Others are carrying on for the moment behind closed doors.

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Post by salmon spray » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:47 am

Racing in the US is limping along in some places behind closed doors. New York and California are off due to state directives I believe. Other tracks like Turf Paradise,Parx and Penn seem to have closed voluntarily.
The Florida tracks,Gulfstream and Tampa are carrying on as are Oaklawn in Arkansas,Sam Houston in Texas,Will Rogers in Oklahoma,Charles Town in one of the Virginias I think. There are a few others including Remington Park,where Bf are offering quarter-horse markets tonight. Don't think I'll bother.

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