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Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:37 pm
by Cripsy1
Im in , happy with the cost , doubt i will get to see it but the winnings over lock down more than paid for it 👍👍

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:11 pm
by jarv
Forgotten log in details, conquered.

Keep me posted ^/

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:22 pm
by gazza2008
Count me in.

I did also reply in whats app.

Gaz

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:29 am
by Hoofhearted
Many thanks for your comments so far - it’s looking promising and it should be a good craic and after the initial purchase should be a very cheap interest

I will give it until tomorrow night and then send details out.

I’m aware not everyone is on the WhatsApp group - to be honest there hasn’t been too many questions that haven’t been covered.

These were the points discussed

To clarify the monthly bill - apart from the daily rate which hopefully will be largely offset by win and run money ( unlike horses there’s no races entry fee and we effectively get paid to run - around £35) there will be few other expenses

We don’t get charged transportation to the track, there will just be the occasional extra - worming, inoculation and if need be vets / thankfully most racing injuries are muscle related and are cured by rest.

For avoidance of doubt unless we are extremely fortunate ( and realistically given what we are paying unlikely- the dog will run solely at Sheffield.
The racing manager effectively dictates what grade we run in and what day raced- we go up and down grades depending on performance.

I will ensure total transparency Money wise and provide updates - we should know a couple of days before when the dog runs.

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:35 am
by Hoofhearted
Activefly wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 11:25 am
Hi Stan, thanks for the post, it all reads fine to me, I’m well up for it, I agree with putting in a bit extra for the fees, etc with the first payment, you and Shaun obviously know the game which fills me with great confidence! Looking forward to having a bit of fun with this venture, and with only being an hour away and COVID permitting would like to get over to see the dog run and hopefully meet up! Thanks for the opportunity. From Dean parker (active fly)
Yes hopefully we can meet up- be it at the track , alternatively we take the dogs out for a walk on Sunday mornings.
The kennels are near j31 of the M1 a couple of miles off the A57

As tracks go ( once the virus is over) it’s one of the better ones to include a good And inexpensive restaurant if bringing the Mrs.
Otherwise stay in the bar!

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:43 am
by Hoofhearted
I know it may be difficult for us to meet up being all over the country but it may be possible at some point

Could have a double header with Doncaster races😂

As to the stadium where the dog will run - I know Shaun has been in a previous life , here is the website - I think this link is the restaurant but there are other views on the venue part of the website

https://www.owlertonstadium.co.uk/restaurant/

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:05 am
by Activefly
Hi Stan, thanks for the reply, my mate who I go racing with wants to be involved if it’s not to late? He lives in Grantham and loves his dog racing! He loves his ante post betting on the greyhound derby ! Thanks again

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:27 am
by Hoofhearted
I haven’t a problem at all - may be useful to get him signed up on here too if membership is still open.

I will put something up tonight - payment details etc that should have given everyone a chance to commit.

For avoidance of doubt late joiners will be allowed before the dog runs as it will only reduce the costs for everyone going forward, but we need to draw a line and know how much money we’ve got to go shopping with.

Looking at where your mate lives do you attend Southwell- if so we’ve probably bumped into each other without knowing- that said given the usual attendances at Southwell it’s pretty hard to bump into someone ;-)

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:30 am
by Col
Activefly wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:05 am
Hi Stan, thanks for the reply, my mate who I go racing with wants to be involved if it’s not to late? He lives in Grantham and loves his dog racing! He loves his ante post betting on the greyhound derby ! Thanks again
I agree with Stan
He would be better to open an account on here for communication purposes.
The board is open, and costs nothing to open an account.

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:49 am
by Activefly
Thanks Stan and col, I will get him to join

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:02 am
by Hoofhearted
Good morning all

Thanks for all your positive feedback so far.

It would be much easier if we were able to talk about this over a pint, but both Shaun and I think we are ready to go. I’m trying to be as transparent and cover as many things as possible, as I’m sure it will be a new venture for many.

So just before everyone commits just a few final things that you should be aware of.

As to buying the dog we will be actively able to pursue this now - be it buying one that is already racing , an untraced one or one just having had a few runs in Ireland. All have their positive and negative points, the main thing is trying getting one that will be able to stay the 500m distance - this can be evidenced watching any runs, or though not completely fool proof by looking at breeding and the performance of its siblings if they are racing.

Although I’ve generally had dogs, I’m not adverse to bitches and these can be cheaper- ironically thinking back to a syndicate I was involved with Shaun 10 years or so ago, my memory is fading :lol ... but we probably had 6 dogs between 10 of us and the best two were actually bitches.

A few other key points:
It should be seen as a bit of fun not an investment, therefore I would not recommend anyone buying ‘ two shares etc’ - much easier if we are all equal partners holding the same percentage and paying equal amounts.

When we get the greyhound it will probably be a month or so before it actually races - there is the registration process plus probably 3 trials where the racing office assess its grade, it’s running preference ie likely running style -rails, middle wide, and ensure it’s not a fighter!
The plus point is Sheffield is presently recording trials via a YouTube channel so if this facility continues you will be able to see its trial.

We are only allowed 4 names as owners on the registration form, I therefore strongly recommend we register it as a syndicate- otherwise if say 4 of us register as the owners there’s the hassle of providing passport/ driving licences / utility bills for ID. It will probably be easier if I’m listed as syndicate head as I’m registered as an owner with the GBGB so it should be straight forward ( or if there are issues or is paperwork to be completed I’m probably best placed to go to the racing office.)

Obviously if we go down this route we need a syndicate name- that’s one for another day ( I’d probably go for something innocent or humorous ie steer away from anything indicating we are gamblers to keep under the radar, plus I don’t want the kennel to be seen as a gambling kennel much easier to be under the radar.)

To back this up , I know it’s early stages in Kelly’s training career and with not many runners average figures can be distorted but see what I mean via this website.
http://greyhoundstats.co.uk/trainer_sta ... =1&period=
You can also see the individual SPs by dog by clicking on the trainers name.

Once we are up and running although I can’t see us having an arguments but I’d like us to have an agreement confirming a few things - in particular in the unlikely event of a conflict eg sale of the dog ( I’ve only once had an issue in a syndicate but we received an offer for one but there was nothing decided at the outset and it was a 50/50 call and caused some friction at the time)

Finally looking ahead, I’m pretty big on welfare- I’ve always had retired racers at home, so I’d like to think that once the dogs racing career is over, if we cannot find a home with family and friends we will all agree to pay the monthly kennel bill until a place becomes available at a rehoming centre -I can explain what the provisions presently are, but hopefully this is something 2 or 3 years down the line.

I hope all this is acceptable, but please feel free to ask any questions

Therefore can we start forwarding the £200 purchase price contribution- depending on final numbers if this more than covers the purchase it can be used towards monthly kennel bills etc

For anyone on the WhatsApp group I have placed my bank details on there - if your not on WhatsApp please message me and I will respond.

Regards
Stan

Re: Potential Greyhound syndicate

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:27 am
by oioiboy
Just an update for anyone who still interested in joining

we have now got a dog for the syndicate and the dog will hopefully be trialing in the next few weeks.

We have also set up a Whatsapp group to post updates etc

We are still open for anyone to still join if they wish just reply on here or PM Hoofhearted or myself :thumbs